JC2-data. Ramblings and random thoughts

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[JC]2, Captain Logic...

That's me. ... well, I'm an idealist, male who tries to do the right thing (from my point of view), even when the consequences are terrible, (See changes) too involved in looking for a meaning for life, redundant at times, too hard on myself as well, probably an extremist of sorts, still, I like to humor myself and think I can be funny and charming as well...

Every minute of your existance, the old you is gone and there's a new you, every little thing you did or didn't do makes up for the difference, and at the end, you might find yourself asking the fatidic question, was it worth it?.

Right now, ANYTHING can be done 'GIVEN ENOUGH TIME/MONEY' and the relation between the time and the money is inversely proportional (more time, less money, more money, less time).

Faith is the total absence of having reasons for a belief. Robert Heinlein put it best when he said "Faith Is Intellectual Lazyness".

If everything is going well... You obviously don't know what the hell is going on!

Let's sum this up (I just had one of those 8 hour long conversation/argument with a close friend about this, and we came to some conclussions): *Some people consider music just another form of entertainment. *Some people consider music ART. and expect it to be the form through which artists express themselves. *The rest: are in between these two stands. Now, I consider myself in the group that considers music art and despises the banalization of it by making it just another form of entertainment (another form of making money, as well)... But i've also heard the valid argument of the people who just listen to whatever songs they like... both of them are valid lines of reasoning, the only difference is that viewing music as a form of art is less egotistical than saying, if I like it, I don't care if the newkidsintheblock/vanillaice/spicegirls or any product like that sings it...

Profanity is nothing but an asshole's way of stating strong opinions because they haven't mastered their own language.

Heaven Or Hell? I'll Take My Chances With Hell... Indeed Hell might be a bit overheated, but the company sure as heck will be better than it will be in heaven. Consider.... HEAVEN: Jerry Falwell. Billy Graham. Mother Teresa. Pat Robertson. HELL: Isaac Asimov. Carl Sagan. Euripides. Clarence Darrow. Ayn Rand. Me.

Christians can't even seem to be at peace with their own kind, let alone with others. Long ago, Latin Christians said the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father. The Eastern Orthodox said no, the Holy Ghost proceeds from both the Father and the Son. (Or maybe it was the other way around.) Real important shit, no? Well, THEY must have thought it was important. They beat the shit out of each other. Burned down each other's churches. Killed each other. About 1350 years after the original crisis, the bitterness was still alive. In 1870 the Catholics and the Orthodox still refused to sit down together at some Christian conferences. Give me a few honest skeptics any day. I'll live longer without the Lord.

Individualism: The world at large is out to crush individualism into the pool of collective mediocrity, and I don't intend to go down without a fight.

It has been reported that well over 50% of the population think that the bible is the exact word of god. Which version?

A much higher percentage of people with IQs beyond 140-145 tend not to be wired quite right. They see the world under a completely different light and most of the rest of us see an entirely different world. I'm not saying they are wrong and the rest of us are right, but they most definately march to the beat of their own drummer.

Confusing. Why should I be punished because I prefer to spend Sundays at the beach with my family rather than uncomfortable stuck in an uncomfortable pew being shouted at by a raving lunatic? Oh, so THAT'S why you guys get eternity in heaven. You're being punished NOW.

Does losing your mind contemplating the lack of logic, egoism, and inanity of trying to believe in the christian gOD count as a loss?? Don't worry, I'm only slightly serious. A large share of the christians I know still can tie their shoes.

Religion... is very much like going into the military, you basically turn in your brain when you join.

Can we say... that belief in "God" as the beginning and end to all personal actions is the truest form of blasphemy as well as a massive cop-out? I think so.

About the term "Mindless masses" --Why else would TOP40 music be so popular? Because masses of non-thinking individuals like the simple song structure. Shall we say, they can hum to it.

Atheists think that all religion is worthless, superstitious mythology. However, many atheists will agree that some people NEED to have a religion.. Like Machiavelli said, it is good for people to have a religion: it distracts them from the important work done by the politicians.

To the fool, religion is truth; to the wise religion is necessary; to the government, religion is USEFUL.

All beliefs are personal its in the group that the whole thing falls apart. Most people are insecure and by banding together they think they're more likely to be taken for the truth.

"Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former." --Albert Einstein

I thank technology, humanity, intelligence and luck for our achievements. In Homo Sap we trust!

This one is for all the lovers of fine literature: Society as a whole, of late, has found a great item to complain and be enraged about in the clever manipulation of our emotions and motivations by the TV medium. Now, the hard question is.. Haven't we been doing this many times before through more 'respected' means? Lately I'm just wondering if I read so much simply for the pleasure of having my feelings manipulated. Ask yourself.

At different points in time most religions, if they haven't encouraged acts of violence against one another, they've promoted "holy wars" for "their" gOD On the basis of: -You don't believe what I do therefore, you will: 1.Burn in hell. 2.Be killed by a "true believer". 3.Be ridiculed by those around you. 4.Be ignored by those around you. The only widespread practice that isn't trying to impose their way on someone else is the Wicca. Why? In older days, that practice was equated with the worship of my old friend Belzebu.. you know, 'him'? Something about the rituals and Magick. Ironic isn't it? If we are to follow the "Golden Rule", why can't we expect the true believers to follow it first?

This is a game of results, not good intentions, life as we know it keeps turning into a bad joke, because society at large seems to promote the well -meaning idiots instead of the malicious overachievers who would get things done (For their own purposes, of course, but done nevertheless). Cinicism in my tone? Of course. I'm a recovering Catholic.

Two things [JC]2, Captain Logic does not do: Run away, and run away to a place that is playing "We're going back to Cali". I realize some things must be endured. The above are not in this category.

Funny thing about how people change. People change with you and away from you, all in the same single swoop, the idea is to savor the moment as it passes, as once it's gone it's irretrievable. I wonder if I'll ever understand why.

On raging hormones... And the removal of the above. I had mine removed at the age of 11... (around the time all my friends started noticing girls -them being 13-14.. and I realized how pathetic and base it was).. only to recently discover that I've been neglecting some of the more primal side of a humanity I no longer despise.

I believe life is pain and a caress is simply a pain with a twist, in many ways a form of pain with good intent.

Elitism and music. Mindsets vary widely, sometimes I find myself standing across a quasimythical boundary; I never got over the fact that to me, music should have a certain level of substance (hehe NO/JD tie-in) or transcendence, I got over the concept of exclusivity within this mindset.

--I believe.. In myself, In love, in the future, that life may be a dream, but it's our responsability to keep it from becoming a nightmare, that I may be too much of a dreamer and I feel good about it, that life doesn't need a purpose but there's a purpose to be found in living it, that we may be stray thoughts in a continuum of infinite knowledge, and as such we interact to create more complex thought entities, in pain, in experiencing every bit of this strange bad acid trip called life..

--I don't believe.. In absolute survivalism, in being unethical because you can in brainwashing of any sort, in regret, in ideas being restricted by a finite measure, in the human potential being encased in a physical shell, In people who confuse intelectual lazyness for faith, In overbearing, self-righteous doctrines, in traditions that don't make sense, in the merit of stability, in music as simply another form of entertainment as opposed to being an expression (or extension) of the artist's soul, in showing a lack of mastering of any given language by using foul language, Heaven and/or Hell (as well as any place in between), in anyone who wishes to 'save' me (thanks, but i'll find my own salivation I mean salvation), In reality being absolute or good and bad being definite concepts, in collective mediocrity against individualism, in the need for religion once mankind can stand on its collective feet and face anything by ourselves..
Interesting discussion.
-Great, this way we will KNOW we're plummeting towards certain death but be unable to do anythign about it but quantify it?
-Well, at least we'll die knowing we deserved it. or we can warn each other. to be honest, I think you're more at risk than I.
-Because I tend to camp out on the emotionbal rollercoaster, rather than riding in it occasionally? :)
..The most bizarre thing you've ever been asked?
"So.. if we're not defined as to what were doing together as of yet, and we're going to hang out and talk wednesday if one of us goes home with someone else tonight.. would the other one be upset?" -anonymous to protect the identity of the not so innocent. Uttered one monday night at the Castle..
Couldn't even wait two days.. I sure know how to pick 'em.
Mr Hendershot and I, while driving back from Steak and Shake.
JC2> ..So, essentially, what we're saying is that while most men want virgin whores.. most women think wistfully of the rogue with the implied heart of gold.
Al> that movie has so many levels!
Proceed chaos and mayhem of laughter now.
Excerpt from a James discussion (tm).
JAMES> It seems that a lot of the olde timers went the way of the trend de jour: A quote "I've fucked everyone here, time to move on." I just find it amusing that the old die-hards , the people who were the harshest, and most judgemental as to what was and what not, aren't even weekend warriors, and many of the peeps they viewed with such contempt and disdain are still hanging out.
JC2> Well James, there *IS* something to be said for not taking oneself too seriously. The uber-goths.. perhaps they transcended everyone else and themselves out of (I.hate.to.use.this.word) -the-scene-

One thing (perhaps a sidenote) that I wonder about is the *blind* support your scene creed. I never got that. If I don't like a particular band/show/club enough to stomach it without large quantities of alcohol.. even if it's more 'my scene' than say a country or egads, a techno club.. I don't WANT to encourage them.. I'd rather be alone than in bad company.
JAMES> You run into them, and it's all "oh well, I grew out of that." or "I've got a life now." Like they were dead before?
JC2> Some of us grew THROUGH it. It's funny that Nebelhexa mentions SLC punk when replying to this thing.. It was one of those silly lil things for me to nearly fully identify with.. of course, there where differences in settings ( coming from the Peru IS a little bit different than salt lake, but just as much of a brainmatter void ;] ). But I remember making some difficult choices about how much damage I could do to -the system- from within the scene, and how much could be done from within the system itself hehe.
JAMES> Or did they get a day job and and the herd instinct kicked in, for that piddling extra 6,000 a year. I'm all about turning profit or making money, but is it really worth your soul? I don't think so, least I hope not, it's the only thing keeping me out of nihlism. I mean hell, we know we're going to die . We've learned that the joy is in the wanting and the chasing, and once the goal is obtained it quickly loses whatever flavor it might have had, causing the cycle of wanting to start anew. So what do we really have? Ourselves. You are all you ever really have. Is it really worth that extra 6,000 a year if the price is only your spirit? But wait, you say, I can use the money to finally take that trip to europe/buy x-product/etc.
See, I think if you balance the sheets right (as far as that time/$ goes).. you CAN in fact have your cake and eat it too.. I was having a ball and a half until I started up school.. still having a blast, it just so happens now some of it is devoted to 'higher education' if only because in this particular case, consolidating my college credits into a cohesive degree will get me about twice my salary, recognition and perhaps a ton of more opportunities (and I do intend to exploit them) if I have my way, perhaps I can get to see some of the neato german bands in their native soil..
JAMES> Sure..all you need is the time/energy/motivation. But if getting dressed and going to a club for even an hour in your own town is too much to do, are you really going to go? Maybe you're saving up waiting for retirement, when you can wander around places you would have loved before your feet/back/goiter started hurting and you are asleep by 11, happy that you finally got there.
JC2> Hehe. *IF* not when, but if my body starts to decay (or if I pay attention to it long enough for it to bother me) I'm dying my white hair blue :)
JAMES> And in the last hour, at the final minute, when there is only you to to keep you company, you reflect back and wonder "what the hell happened to me?" Is it really worth a few scraps of cloth-like paper? No I haven't gotten to raid europe or drag my friends halfway 'round the world, for no other reason than I can but I can say I haven't sacrified my beliefs for kindling in the cold fire of reality.
JC2> I dunno James, some of us are under the belief we can "have our cake and eat it too" in the sense that we can dissect and disseminate from within.. my present job doesn't allow me that much in the way of liberties for what I find functional in clothing.. much less fashionable (in my own derranged sense). But that's ok.. for now. The present (newly squeaky clean) job will allow me to fit more classes in my schedule..
JAMES>Note: I'm sooo not accussing anybody of selling out, just venting my feelings on it...which seem to be a bit more vehement than I realized... c'est la vie, at least I know I'm not dead. Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes. James
JC2> You know.. something to consider.. I'm not *sure* I want to share space/oxygen with all the halfwits who enjoy >disclaimerratherbluntgeneralizationhere< our approach to things >enddisclaimer< only when it's en vogue, per se. I'd rather have them flushed out by the recoil, that's ok by me. There's enough spooky throwbacks for my taste as it is :)

Random note. I attended a MickJones chat @ yahoochat the other night. A strange little experience there.. And it made me feel old. In a good way, though. Old in the way of.. I've been there. Wow. I remember things from back in the day, when the day was today. When I thought of women as mystical beings, like unicorns, occasionally seen never to be found..